This is a perfect example of internalized misogyny. Sadly, these are highly paid famous influencers indoctrinating vulnerable young women and men. I say quit social media. It’s done enough damage to society at large-social engineering. Also read the book “Female Chauvinist Pigs” by Ariel Levy. It came out in 2004, but it started to examine the influence of raunch culture in the mainstream. I highly recommend it. I am looking forward to reading “Girl on Girl”. Definitely need it now.
Back in the 70s, there were bumper stickers that said “Kill Your Television”. Stay off the internet as much as possible is an extension of that philosophy.
interesting read; i’ve definitely been thinking about the concept of the manosphere and how to protect young boys from falling for it (particularly my two young nephews as they grow up :(
You are so wrong. They are selling the skills that made women trustworthy enough to run homesteads during cattle drives or long war marches. They are selling superiority and intelligence. Tradcon in original forms is why Mrs. Became a high status title. They are selling Lady and Lord. They are selling a peerage style life. That is so far beyond the vulgar selling of pussy that is sad people do not get it.
I agree the 'right' conserved nothing. This is mostly because they let the disillusioned left join their ranks and identify as 'right', while keeping their leftist ideology and they also let the left define what 'the right' means.
What the left call 'the right' are just the old left from 10 years ago. The ones who could not stomach any more 'progress'. This is most obvious with feminism, where each wave of feminists push for more extremism and give birth to an even more extreme wave of their ideology, which many feminists cannot stomach and so they get off the bus and are eventually labelled 'conservatives'.
Sex positive/ social constructivism/ ladette culture feminism gave birth to gender ideology. Some of the older feminists couldn't bear what they had created, and so they became TERFs, and are now regarded as 'right wing'. But 20 years ago they were left wing. Their ideology has not changed, it is just that society as a whole (Overton window) has lurched several miles over to the left.
The left eat their own (those who are not radical enough for the current year), while the right adopt people from the left and let them keep their leftist ideology. This is why the left will always win until society collapses and/ or full blown totalitarianism is achieved (ie government everything).
The left = perpetual revolution/ destruction/ deconstruction/ dismantling of culture...... leading eventually to full blown communism/ fascism/ technocracy once everything in our culture has been destroyed.
The further out to sea they sail, the more they point back at the land receding into the distance and say "look how 'far right' the land has become!" This justifies even more radicalisation.
The left do not even acknowledge those people in society who might qualify as 'true' conservatives or traditionalists. They are completely off the radar, living their lives, raising their children and just trying to get by. They do not live on the internet like leftists do (and so called 'tradcon' influencers).
Conservative values and lifestyles (ie men and women working together as a team, as part of a community, with minimal to no government involvement at all) haven't really existed in mainstream culture for about 150 years.
The left/ right political spectrum is (IMHO) composed entirely of leftists. Anyone who is a statist is a leftist, really.
True conservatism/ traditionalism means not wanting politicians (and their guns) to have ANY role in your marriage, family affairs or business dealings.
Question is if Bonnie Blue is simply a damaged girl. I have seen from interviews that suggests she has terrible self-esteem. Her parents from what I understand have supported her in her "career".
I think a fundamental difference between her and Tate is that she is hurting herself primarily. She is not someone people look up to or will use as a role model. But Andrew Tate is actually used as a role model by countless men. I have yet to see anyone look at Bonnie Blue as a role model.
Yet Tate is the one has raped girls, engaged in sex trafficking and spreads misogyny. Bonnie Blue may contribute to misogyny but if she does it is not because anyone sees her as anyone to listen to. You are not going to get millions of girls going around defending Bonnie Blue and wanting to be like her. But you got millions of guys acting like that in relation to Andrew Tate.
Bonnie Blue is more like a person who should be saved from her own self destruction. With her behavior, she is just not going to last very long. A man like Tate on the other hand will not self destruct. He will instead pass on pain on other people.
Not sure where the point was in this meandering writing. Bonnie blue is a disgusting degenerate creature who clowned herself just to get famous as queen clown. Andrew Tate is nothing like her. He’s simply a popular Muslim dude who sells masculinity along with a dose of Muslim violence and control of women. Charlie Kirk has very little in common with Tate other than they both slut shame degenerate women. That doesn’t make them alike, not in the least. It’s about as useful as they both eat food.🙄
Weird to present a sex trafficker and rapist as the "good one" while Bonnie Blue is the disgusting one. The key difference is that Bonnie Blue is primarily hurting herself. Andrew Tate has not only hurt countless women but also scammed countless men out of their money.
I don’t believe any of that. I think he was targeted because he was far too effective influencing young men away from the feeble beliefs of feminized society in the west.
To answer your other question about why “guys like me go after the porn prostitute and not the men”…
Do cops prefer to bust the guy smoking a joint, or the ones shopping it in by the hundreds of pounds?
Women are the gatekeepers of sex and purity. They are supposed to say no to immoral offers. That men will watch when they don’t is a given. Each man is responsible for what he views, but she’s announcing her sin to the world with degenerate pride.
“Christian fundamentalism and crass manosphere misogyny are of a piece.”
No kidding. Patriarchy does it’s very best to twist its god aesthetic of fear, shame and scarcity where nothing is sweet for the gentle gender. Girls and women are property, a means to an end, shamed if they do and shamed if they don’t. The whole focus on an eternal afterlife is a con. What a miserable way to live.
“Shamed if they don’t?” by who? No, the shaming, which is proper incorrect by the way, is for these creatures that turn themselves into corn Starzz for attention and fast cash, like a drug dealer, and then have the nerve to cry and say they are a victim of the patriarchy.🙄
Why do guys like you only ever go after the women and never hold the men driving the porn industry accountable? And what about the parents? Bonnie Blue must have had some serious bad parenting as her parents have supported her whole career. It seems to me like they have wanted to make money of the prostitution of their own daughter.
If you got parents like that, it is not merely about bad choices by the daughter. If it is only about her choices, then I guess I could give up my responsibilities as a father right away because apparently I have not responsibility for raising my kids properly.
Everything is the fault of the patriarchy! It's just an excuse for women not to take responsibility. Or are you saying women have no agency? Or maybe no critical thinking? She did this for money and attention, pure and simple.
I was born in Iran. We escaped when Islam took over and never looked back. But every now and then I hear about one of these OnlyFans “stunts” and think, “Eh, maybe the mullahs had a couple of decent points?”
😂😂😂 me too. As a lifelong westerner, I always wondered why the Muslim countries controlled their women so hard. Now, decades later, seeing how out-of-control western women have become, such Jezebels, I think to myself, “maybe those Muslim guys had some wisdom after all.”
I wasn't referring to controlling women. Just depravity in general. I don't care what people do in their homes; it's these "stunts," which *mainstream media outlets* report on, that make Western civilization look like a bad idea after all.
These highly publicised and politicised internet characters (to the extent that they are even real) are what feminists have always demanded. Tate and Blue and all the other OF thots and the rich materialistic men they pursue to extract money from, are the epitome of feminism and progressivism.
They are all 100% sexually liberated, having completely detached sex from the 'tradcon' (ie natural, life sustaining) practice of careful and responsible mate selection and pair bonding, monogamy, marriage and family.
The mental gymnastics required to blame 'the right' and 'tradcon' for the culture of feminism and progressivism is breathtaking.
The reality is that feminist/ progressive 'values' (hedonism, materialism, vanity, ego, service to self, narcissism, solipsism, nihilism, and the harem model of 70% of young women competing for the attention and money of the top 5% of rich men, even if that means having to share those men between them) are tearing civilised society apart and destroying the lives of children.
The so called 'right' and 'tradcons' are people who orientate their lives around monogamy, pair bonding, marriage, stay-at-home parenting and family life. So obviously they must be the ones responsible for the Only Fans culture and harem behaviour of modern progressive, feminist women..... because otherwise feminists and progressives will have to actually blame their own life choices. And that means they won't be able to play the victim any more.
I don’t know or like either of these people but what she said about women who do things and then cry about it? She’s not wrong. Why are you letting men objectify you and then cry that they are objectifying you? Yes we can be sad over choices we make but if it’s in your control to not continue to make the choice that causes sadness why not discontinue the action?
You say "right-wing", but clearly you don't even know what it means!
I dislike Andrew Tate and Bonnie Blue, and I don't support them, but calling them "right-wing" is nonsense. I'm pretty sure that you can't even explain what "left-wing" and "right-wing" mean, but you use these words anyway, despite having no understanding of them.
In your mind, "right-wing" simply means "Everything that I hate". Isn't that the truth?
I used to hate Tate because he is a criminal psyco scammer, but people like you make me like him because he can at least be successful at something. Your ideas of politics is just to shame and cry so rich and successful people come to the rescue,despite never yourselves have made anything. Morally grey people have made global contributions, from wife cheatting Schindler to anti-semite Fischer. There isn't a force that can push harder to the far right someone like me, than taking the feminised equivallent of demanding your husband provides for you when you do nothing for him because 'i am the table', and applying that dynamic to government policy. The most paternalistic and infantilizing message possible is the way you want to socialise the next generation,and i would prefer my children watch these 2 scammers who should be in jail, because at least they try to amass fame and money with their own abilities rather than victimizing themselves and hope others cater to their needs. I really hope you believe me and introspect a bit, because our goals align.
> try to amass fame and money with their own abilities rather than victimizing themselves
Er...having 2,000 guys of dubious character and hygiene run a train on you doesn't require much ability. And she's definitely being degraded (a.k.a. victimized, even though it's uncool to say so).
These guys are also degrading themselves, but no one knows their names and I assume they're wearing Nixon masks to stay anonymous.
I prefer it to crying about capitalism/patriarchy. You should help people who are weak but not aspire to be one yourself. I have nothing positive to say about the dudes who pay to fuck for 1 min, but at least i don't hate them unless they are happy with their lives.
Loving your story, but the term Politically Correct was coined in Russia, to realign the news and government narrative to be "Politically" correct, not the truth. It's getting thrown around these days as a kind of 'virtuous' way to speak.
It ain't!!
If it's political, it's dirty and generally untruthful.
This is a perfect example of internalized misogyny. Sadly, these are highly paid famous influencers indoctrinating vulnerable young women and men. I say quit social media. It’s done enough damage to society at large-social engineering. Also read the book “Female Chauvinist Pigs” by Ariel Levy. It came out in 2004, but it started to examine the influence of raunch culture in the mainstream. I highly recommend it. I am looking forward to reading “Girl on Girl”. Definitely need it now.
I've read Levy a long time ago, and Gilbert talks about it in her book! Should revisit Levy for my own book I'm writing for sure
Back in the 70s, there were bumper stickers that said “Kill Your Television”. Stay off the internet as much as possible is an extension of that philosophy.
interesting read; i’ve definitely been thinking about the concept of the manosphere and how to protect young boys from falling for it (particularly my two young nephews as they grow up :(
Honestly, the best way to get ahead of it is positive role models. Tate is a hypocrite and will repulse anyone raised on something like Tolkien.
Ultra slut is not pioneering anything for the right wing. It is the left wing that loves selling vagina as a valid work skill.
The right loves selling vagina too, they do it under the guise of TradCon.
You are so wrong. They are selling the skills that made women trustworthy enough to run homesteads during cattle drives or long war marches. They are selling superiority and intelligence. Tradcon in original forms is why Mrs. Became a high status title. They are selling Lady and Lord. They are selling a peerage style life. That is so far beyond the vulgar selling of pussy that is sad people do not get it.
I get it, it’s just that those days are never coming back, if they were even true to begin with. The “right” conserved nothing.
I agree the 'right' conserved nothing. This is mostly because they let the disillusioned left join their ranks and identify as 'right', while keeping their leftist ideology and they also let the left define what 'the right' means.
What the left call 'the right' are just the old left from 10 years ago. The ones who could not stomach any more 'progress'. This is most obvious with feminism, where each wave of feminists push for more extremism and give birth to an even more extreme wave of their ideology, which many feminists cannot stomach and so they get off the bus and are eventually labelled 'conservatives'.
Sex positive/ social constructivism/ ladette culture feminism gave birth to gender ideology. Some of the older feminists couldn't bear what they had created, and so they became TERFs, and are now regarded as 'right wing'. But 20 years ago they were left wing. Their ideology has not changed, it is just that society as a whole (Overton window) has lurched several miles over to the left.
The left eat their own (those who are not radical enough for the current year), while the right adopt people from the left and let them keep their leftist ideology. This is why the left will always win until society collapses and/ or full blown totalitarianism is achieved (ie government everything).
The left = perpetual revolution/ destruction/ deconstruction/ dismantling of culture...... leading eventually to full blown communism/ fascism/ technocracy once everything in our culture has been destroyed.
The further out to sea they sail, the more they point back at the land receding into the distance and say "look how 'far right' the land has become!" This justifies even more radicalisation.
The left do not even acknowledge those people in society who might qualify as 'true' conservatives or traditionalists. They are completely off the radar, living their lives, raising their children and just trying to get by. They do not live on the internet like leftists do (and so called 'tradcon' influencers).
Conservative values and lifestyles (ie men and women working together as a team, as part of a community, with minimal to no government involvement at all) haven't really existed in mainstream culture for about 150 years.
The left/ right political spectrum is (IMHO) composed entirely of leftists. Anyone who is a statist is a leftist, really.
True conservatism/ traditionalism means not wanting politicians (and their guns) to have ANY role in your marriage, family affairs or business dealings.
Tradcon has them right now.
Question is if Bonnie Blue is simply a damaged girl. I have seen from interviews that suggests she has terrible self-esteem. Her parents from what I understand have supported her in her "career".
I think a fundamental difference between her and Tate is that she is hurting herself primarily. She is not someone people look up to or will use as a role model. But Andrew Tate is actually used as a role model by countless men. I have yet to see anyone look at Bonnie Blue as a role model.
Yet Tate is the one has raped girls, engaged in sex trafficking and spreads misogyny. Bonnie Blue may contribute to misogyny but if she does it is not because anyone sees her as anyone to listen to. You are not going to get millions of girls going around defending Bonnie Blue and wanting to be like her. But you got millions of guys acting like that in relation to Andrew Tate.
Bonnie Blue is more like a person who should be saved from her own self destruction. With her behavior, she is just not going to last very long. A man like Tate on the other hand will not self destruct. He will instead pass on pain on other people.
Not sure where the point was in this meandering writing. Bonnie blue is a disgusting degenerate creature who clowned herself just to get famous as queen clown. Andrew Tate is nothing like her. He’s simply a popular Muslim dude who sells masculinity along with a dose of Muslim violence and control of women. Charlie Kirk has very little in common with Tate other than they both slut shame degenerate women. That doesn’t make them alike, not in the least. It’s about as useful as they both eat food.🙄
Weird to present a sex trafficker and rapist as the "good one" while Bonnie Blue is the disgusting one. The key difference is that Bonnie Blue is primarily hurting herself. Andrew Tate has not only hurt countless women but also scammed countless men out of their money.
I don’t believe any of that. I think he was targeted because he was far too effective influencing young men away from the feeble beliefs of feminized society in the west.
To answer your other question about why “guys like me go after the porn prostitute and not the men”…
Do cops prefer to bust the guy smoking a joint, or the ones shopping it in by the hundreds of pounds?
Women are the gatekeepers of sex and purity. They are supposed to say no to immoral offers. That men will watch when they don’t is a given. Each man is responsible for what he views, but she’s announcing her sin to the world with degenerate pride.
In short, she’s wayyyy worse.
“Christian fundamentalism and crass manosphere misogyny are of a piece.”
No kidding. Patriarchy does it’s very best to twist its god aesthetic of fear, shame and scarcity where nothing is sweet for the gentle gender. Girls and women are property, a means to an end, shamed if they do and shamed if they don’t. The whole focus on an eternal afterlife is a con. What a miserable way to live.
“Shamed if they don’t?” by who? No, the shaming, which is proper incorrect by the way, is for these creatures that turn themselves into corn Starzz for attention and fast cash, like a drug dealer, and then have the nerve to cry and say they are a victim of the patriarchy.🙄
Why do guys like you only ever go after the women and never hold the men driving the porn industry accountable? And what about the parents? Bonnie Blue must have had some serious bad parenting as her parents have supported her whole career. It seems to me like they have wanted to make money of the prostitution of their own daughter.
If you got parents like that, it is not merely about bad choices by the daughter. If it is only about her choices, then I guess I could give up my responsibilities as a father right away because apparently I have not responsibility for raising my kids properly.
Everything is the fault of the patriarchy! It's just an excuse for women not to take responsibility. Or are you saying women have no agency? Or maybe no critical thinking? She did this for money and attention, pure and simple.
I was born in Iran. We escaped when Islam took over and never looked back. But every now and then I hear about one of these OnlyFans “stunts” and think, “Eh, maybe the mullahs had a couple of decent points?”
😂😂😂 me too. As a lifelong westerner, I always wondered why the Muslim countries controlled their women so hard. Now, decades later, seeing how out-of-control western women have become, such Jezebels, I think to myself, “maybe those Muslim guys had some wisdom after all.”
I wasn't referring to controlling women. Just depravity in general. I don't care what people do in their homes; it's these "stunts," which *mainstream media outlets* report on, that make Western civilization look like a bad idea after all.
These highly publicised and politicised internet characters (to the extent that they are even real) are what feminists have always demanded. Tate and Blue and all the other OF thots and the rich materialistic men they pursue to extract money from, are the epitome of feminism and progressivism.
They are all 100% sexually liberated, having completely detached sex from the 'tradcon' (ie natural, life sustaining) practice of careful and responsible mate selection and pair bonding, monogamy, marriage and family.
The mental gymnastics required to blame 'the right' and 'tradcon' for the culture of feminism and progressivism is breathtaking.
The reality is that feminist/ progressive 'values' (hedonism, materialism, vanity, ego, service to self, narcissism, solipsism, nihilism, and the harem model of 70% of young women competing for the attention and money of the top 5% of rich men, even if that means having to share those men between them) are tearing civilised society apart and destroying the lives of children.
The so called 'right' and 'tradcons' are people who orientate their lives around monogamy, pair bonding, marriage, stay-at-home parenting and family life. So obviously they must be the ones responsible for the Only Fans culture and harem behaviour of modern progressive, feminist women..... because otherwise feminists and progressives will have to actually blame their own life choices. And that means they won't be able to play the victim any more.
You’re really stupid
I don’t know or like either of these people but what she said about women who do things and then cry about it? She’s not wrong. Why are you letting men objectify you and then cry that they are objectifying you? Yes we can be sad over choices we make but if it’s in your control to not continue to make the choice that causes sadness why not discontinue the action?
You say "right-wing", but clearly you don't even know what it means!
I dislike Andrew Tate and Bonnie Blue, and I don't support them, but calling them "right-wing" is nonsense. I'm pretty sure that you can't even explain what "left-wing" and "right-wing" mean, but you use these words anyway, despite having no understanding of them.
In your mind, "right-wing" simply means "Everything that I hate". Isn't that the truth?
Luigi knows how to deal with this.
Nobody guessed the tattoo
I used to hate Tate because he is a criminal psyco scammer, but people like you make me like him because he can at least be successful at something. Your ideas of politics is just to shame and cry so rich and successful people come to the rescue,despite never yourselves have made anything. Morally grey people have made global contributions, from wife cheatting Schindler to anti-semite Fischer. There isn't a force that can push harder to the far right someone like me, than taking the feminised equivallent of demanding your husband provides for you when you do nothing for him because 'i am the table', and applying that dynamic to government policy. The most paternalistic and infantilizing message possible is the way you want to socialise the next generation,and i would prefer my children watch these 2 scammers who should be in jail, because at least they try to amass fame and money with their own abilities rather than victimizing themselves and hope others cater to their needs. I really hope you believe me and introspect a bit, because our goals align.
> try to amass fame and money with their own abilities rather than victimizing themselves
Er...having 2,000 guys of dubious character and hygiene run a train on you doesn't require much ability. And she's definitely being degraded (a.k.a. victimized, even though it's uncool to say so).
These guys are also degrading themselves, but no one knows their names and I assume they're wearing Nixon masks to stay anonymous.
I prefer it to crying about capitalism/patriarchy. You should help people who are weak but not aspire to be one yourself. I have nothing positive to say about the dudes who pay to fuck for 1 min, but at least i don't hate them unless they are happy with their lives.
What is Bonnie Blue a role model for? The Talmud?
Loving your story, but the term Politically Correct was coined in Russia, to realign the news and government narrative to be "Politically" correct, not the truth. It's getting thrown around these days as a kind of 'virtuous' way to speak.
It ain't!!
If it's political, it's dirty and generally untruthful.
Just FYI. : )